FWA Forward: Vision 2025 and Beyond

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What happening Happy New Year happy New Year it's 2025 yo yeah I know we're here we're here with Susan we got Brooks in the back here obviously Brian T Frederickson uh we're excited this is our first podcast of the year uh I was hoping to do one last year but uh not last year obviously we did one last year I meant last week uh because technically that was the first Wednesday but oh man I said no I didn't even come in I was like man I had all these dreams and all these plans of coming in and getting caught up and doing paperwork and uh you know you know being having peace in the office it just I just never went in I didn't even want to wake up new years no how often do you actually take time off Brian yeah it was uh it was forced we actually worked uh the day after and then uh I think Monday or something of New Year's but other than that you've been busy Susan I feel like we've you know we we went from talking uh twice a day to a couple weeks apart of uh not uh not talking every couple days and I feel like uh I on the road and taking care of business and like I think it was last Friday you called me and I was still really busy and you were like listen I haven't talked to you in two weeks I've given you your space I'll call you tomorrow because we have work to do and this mofo called me on a Saturday and a Sunday and gave me like a list of instructions things that need to be done and of course you know I vetoed like half the wild ideas he came up with over the holiday I gotta go sell some domains and crazy crap that I bought just for these ideas and stuff that's what happens I get left alone that's because you weren't there to uh normally I could call you I'd have that conversation in the morning saying hey what do you think of this you'd shoot me down instead you weren't there to shoot me down on it so I went out and created websites and you know you probably had them all like designed and everything all you had to hit was go and I was like not today Satan you got a new car that's one thing I not my choice but I love it was that a Christmas present or what no it was a if I don't do this right now I will be so upside down on a car that probably doesn't work and when I traded it in to the Hyundai dealership they're like oh this car is in great working condition but when I brought it to BU they told me it's $4,000 to fix it oh man and in six months it'll be another 4,000 Hyundai dealership they sell Maserati at the Hyundai dealership now is that what like I know I'm not joking it's got a third row and everything leather seats I'm like it talks to me I'm like bro yeah I think I was telling you even the most basic car they sell now at like a a Hyundai anywhere it doesn't really matter it's it it's it's like 10 times more upgraded than what we're used to driving it's every year it's like more and more technology in those things no seriously it does everything like I can turn it on from my cell phone right now I can take pictures all around it I'm like who needs that but I mean I guess I need it now right are yall live yeah we're live we're live okay hey Michael 2025 how's your New Year's been it's been great yeah she got the microphone in front of my face oh shoot let's Mo that back SC it in here man let's go a little bit man I noticed all the podcast kept going during uh the last two weeks even if they did like some recap episodes like even fin gr Friday like showed up on like a Tuesday one day and I was confused I was like what day of the week is it yeah were they a lot of Recaps I you know I I disconnected a little bit um I probably wasn't even posting as much on social media which people probably still think I was but it uh it was nice to take the know the short weeks I mean at first I was complaining that it was a Wednesday when all the holidays hit but it actually forced us to take a couple extra days off but what do we got going this year Susan I know you you you just man you unloaded a lot of stuff on me and you said we want to get the schedule going you even said it you're like man there's so much stuff you're like I gotta know so I can plan stuff with my kid if I'm GNA be traveling get cheaper airline tickets what was what was I'm tired I'm tired of last minute like on a Friday you saying hey you're G to be here Monday right like bro that's killing me that's killing me bro that's how we roll that's how we roll sometimes we don't know where we're GNA be until that morning I mean I love that I love that about us we really are still the Cowboys of the Wild

Wild West like for real but like we go where we're needed we go where we're needed there's Michaela what's up Michaela we're gonna be seeing her next week January I don't no I'm so jealous yeah yeah um yeah so um what do we got on the schedule I know what's what's the um do you want to start with the schedule or do we want to do oh I don't ever follow your instructions do I is that my instructions are what would Brian and Shan say I know but Shan here but you know what let's uh you know you're right you're right you're right let's uh let's stick to the schedule you know what would Brian and and I gave you some soft balls here I'm gonna read them to you I think you're gonna love them so you mean I'm gonna have to answer these okay you get to read them okay Jordan teser he's an All-Star contributor on the fs industry only page thank you so much um he has a diesel that's always been regular fuel a worker put red one in one day and then red never goes in his pick up pickups so not a mixup what's the protocol here so I never put the wrong gas in a car but I I was always told if you did it one time it's okay well it's interesting because he says regular fuel I mean I don't know if he's thinking un obviously they don't make regular in a long time but he's but I think he's thinking um regular diesel opposed to Red which would be like Farm like death or or Farm diesel Farm diesel or something um don't get caught yeah I mean you it's obvious you know because they sell diesel to um farms and stuff that's not to be used on the highway so a lot of our taxes the reason the gases and the diesel everything's so high is it's a lot of road taxes and you know fuel taxes and things so if I mean if he's talking about putting regular fuel in a diesel truck then I mean the protocols don't start your truck you leave it where it's at tow it back and drain that tank uh before you start it because once you run that regular fuel through your diesel you're you got pretty expensive repairs so the the protocol is just don't even start it if somebody makes the mistake I've had them do that before um at the gas station the guys call and say hey we actually put the wrong fuel in I don't think you could put diesel in regular but you can the regular nozzle will fit in a diesel um hole because it's a different size but that would be the protocol would be don't even start it if that's the question he asked but but then he went on um Jordan went on to say worker put in red one day which I'm assuming is Farm or non-highway Fuel and if that's the case you just want to get caught with it you know I don't uh I I don't know enough to know if it smokes uh or anything differently but I don't think so so I don't think you'd notice the difference but um run that out as quick as you can right and put regular diesel in because if you get busted uh and they may I don't know if they even check that stuff around here if you ever I've never had anybody in my life say check it but I'm sure if they did it's a pretty good siiz fine so bet they're just checking uh semi- trucks and stuff like that but I could be wrong maybe at one of those check stations you know or something yeah station yeah but I've known people in the past they've told me that they get Farm Fuel and put it in their vehicles but I don't think the fine or getting caught would be worth the savings unless you're buying a lot I guess but I don't I wonder what the price difference is hey somebody somebody it's not it's pretty substantial is it somebody uh chime in and we'll post that in a little bit uh autotune Elijah said that's Auto that's me Elijah so uh yeah so anyway I hope that the question uh if you put diesel if you put gas in a diesel engine don't run it drain the tank hopefully uh you didn't cause any damage uh you could fire it up after that with a nice big full tank of diesel and dilutes whatever might have been in there enough um if a worker puts the wrong you know puts Farm Fuel in get rid of it you know run it through real quick or legally I guess I should I say drain it get it out of your tank you're not supposed to drive on the highway with it there you go there you go I got Honda a cord that smokes just a little bit does anybody out there no I'm just kidding this all of a sudden like diesel check 101 diesel check your Honda hey welcome to diesel show any diesel questions you got ask us where the diesel guys man funny yeah so I got West fence and deck here oh hold on Elijah said he had to

Replace an engine and a skid steer because we got water and a diesel fuel system because they put gas in it oh and that's what I'm saying you gota um the protocol don't start that engine you put anything other than diesel in it because uh it's any repairs Diesel's expensive if not like he said replacing the whole damn engine right but uh okay so West fence and deck I see them all the time in uh and by the way these uh these questions came from where Vince industry only page on Facebook yeah so on Facebook so so anyone ever dug up buried money or dinosaur bones I just want to know what the craziest thing you ever dug up was uh would I've ever dug up yeah gosh uh yeah yeah fiber optic cable I think the only thing is well you know one time uh I was out on a project we had Bobcat out there and we were digging and I don't know if this is crazy or not but you know when you call in utility companies uh we have eight I'm sure everybody has 811 everywhere they Mark only utilities coming into the property they don't like private lines and even some of that going you know once it's a little further in so I had a crew out there with a bobcat with a big old augur attachment uh on it and it went down and hit one of the lines that was connecting the the light light posts in between the parking lot and it just sat there and just Ting Ting Ting Ting just sucked wire up from like six lights and it was just wrapped around like a big ball around the a around the augur bit but um other than that I I think they're kind of thinking if we found dinosaur bunny or bones but I guess if I found a dinosaur bone or buried money I probably stop building fence right right go sell that stuff what up Craig hopefully it's a lot of money out here maybe it's uh some old Casino owners or mob money buried or something I don't know but that's a good question anybody else found anything crazy let us know I personally have never found anything other than like a tin can or you know what I mean just some stupid stuff that' be in the ground what about you Michael Brooks I know you love digging holes uh I found this you didn't dig a hole though that was just on the side of the gate oh yeah I found bad bad wheel today we got Craig gu Eubanks in the house what's up man good evening that's a fence guy Friday fence guy Friday for fence guy Friday um hopefully question I hav't anything yeah anybody else tune in and we'll po we'll post that up there on in the comments if somebody says they found something crazy tell us your craziest thing you found maybe we'll throw it up on fence industry only or my fence life page too uh what do we got Ben Simon's tuming in here too uh what's he saying he says Hey guys wondering since you got Mr Brooks on here the gate expert on hand there Wonder and if you take a pop fly question of course we will I'd love to know what the consensus is on the Buckeye vertical pivot operators the buck guye is um hold on that's the auto gate style correct that's a Brooks question there oh yes it is yes I've sold many of those operators and had really great success with them in Long lives what about you sir uh as long as they don't get hit by semi trucks you're yeah I like them man easy installs uh easy install you already built yeah you got an operator pad you lay it down you got a plane or something out there once you get it down uh it's all you know they build those Gates you tell them what weight you want I I mean I've seen them obviously out here we've done we did one of them at a storage one complex used to be all storage ones out here uh I like them they even connect all the safeties in advance yeah have you installed any no yeah we don't have uh um it seems very popular for the last Market that I was in for storage units just because you were limited on Space you want to literally talk about maximizing every square inch of a property storage spaces are good for that um but uh but we don't have a bad weather issues so there's no need to to do it there just so you don't have wheels going across the ground and then the the last mark that I was in space was not an issue um so there was not very many need for that yep there's Robert Evers uh autate will be at the F show in October they secured their space today did they I didn't even see that that's awesome that's good I know we've been talking to them they've been a big supporter of what we're doing uh we got yeah from them I got a whole we got a whole care package a bunch of hat and

Things is that the first year they've been or were they there before they walked the floor the first year last year they had a another um engagement at the same time so they couldn't make it and this year they um they're going to go ahead and uh build a second demo so that they can do our show because our show lands at the same time as some of the access control events yeah later in the year there's so much going on now it's like you just got to pick your dates and go because there's always something else going so we got Robert Evers if you don't know who he is auto gate operator you know you know a few things or two about Robert Evers awesome guy he's a Smooth Operator that guy he's one of two smooth operators so if you get a chance check out their podcast two smooth operators all this masculinity in one podcast I don't know if I can handle it what time is it what up Robert so Ben Simons man we appreciate you asking the question awesome man thanks and I got one more question for us um it's Tony eping he's a rising contributor which means he's kind of new to the group it says how long should it take to install 5300 foot of s foot chain link so I know that's very dependent on where you're located so if you're Brian located in Las Vegas what y'all y'all plan on what 200 feet a day well I think um well I mean I think it change a seven foot tall you're probably well I figure it in truck days so when I figure it it's a little bit different I don't figure you know multiple Crews so if I had to figure that job I'd probably take the 5,300 feet I divide it by about 150 feet um and it looks like that came to 35 days so i' probably throw about 40 days in that thing just as a starting point when I when I'm working up the bid and I figure 40 uh truck days which would be a truck and two guys and is that what he said four to five weeks four to five weeks that crazy he said yeah he says what it says right there but that's that's about 37 days is what he chose but yeah and I just said 35 to 40 so we're probably all about the same when it comes to chain one thing nice about chain link is anybody does a lot of chain link if you get companies that bid a lot of chain link working consistent when it comes to we know how long it takes for chain link fenes to go in and it didn't if you got um you don't even need tons of experienced guys you get one good experienced guy with a couple helpers that don't have as much and you're going to get about the same production you get two experienced guys chain link uh is consistent we love it how long a roll will that will you buy is it do they come in like 500 feet or a th feet or I still buy 50 foot rolls and roll it out the old fashioned way but um if you want to get like easy um easy G makes a nice cage a wire hog I think it's called um somebody can correct me on that and they'll get like I think you get those in 100 foot rolls somebody fill me in on that too should be 100 foot rolls you can get for the easg uh but you have to have the machine that onto your Bobcat well yeah hooks up your Bobcat or you know some piece of equipment and you can go and that's pretty nice because it just kind of stretches it for you almost as it's going and then you just got to tighten it up and it kind of rolls it out up while it's you know rolls out while it's up so um I wonder what the uh the Tipping Point for that is like how much uh when when do you when's the opportunity that you buy it like how many feet do you go okay well that that would justify actually doing it I wonder Billy do you know how if you had that machine that easg machine how long it would take to do it same thing that'd be good to know I'm never gonna do chain link I think it would speed it up and uh i' I've been always talking about getting them you know we we do tons of chain link but it's I think our average jobs are 500 feet and under so um Justified yeah but to yeah well I yeah I think it' be easy yeah I think uh it' be a lot easier with one of those and you got to get saying you can cut a whole week off your job if you had it yeah that's big that's huge yeah that's a huge time saer that's a bonus it it may may not have been as bad when we were paying everybody eight bucks an hour but 30 bucks an hour for your you know each guy on your crew a week is a lot right right yeah like Elijah said uh a lot of lot of factors in chain link I mean again I was just throwing a ball like if I had to give somebody a budget number and then you'd start asking questions you know where is

This thing can you access it can you drive along the the property uh you know is it um you know we don't you know obviously if there's any kind of prevailing wage kind of labor rates and things like that so um I would throw that on there plus that would be my starting point would be uh 40 days and then I would start adding for variables that that were a factor you know is there you know how long's the travel time and the ground conditions and we have clichy clauset for digging and things like that so um good question though good question but I think we're all pretty consistent I agree I thought it was a fun one like I said I gave you some softballs that I thought would work really nicely for you making it easy on me right you know when I got like you know what I loved is when I uh went down took the got licensed in California you know we've always been here in Las Vegas right so I wanted to expand and get the license California just to have it and I was in there and everybody's like man this is a couple guys I was I was going in on the to take the test and there they test you for uh the business law and the uh an actual trade exam and one guy I'm talking to he's like man I've taken this three times and he's from California and I've taken this three times my third time taking it and I'm like oh man that made me nervous now because I'm going in for the first time right and I go in there and I get why because they do a lot of wood and vinyl and things down there and I don't do all that and almost all the questions were chain link oh yeah did you pass it yeah it was like I pass it the first time was like Cal Trans and and all that stuff so I'm like chain Le question chain Le question I'm like love it hey Mary like your background we like your background there there's a lot of JC G signs behind me right now a lot of JC G signs back there no wonder they like it well let's let's talk about um when your next opportunity to see Mark and Mary Cobar bam yeah that's true fence Cru the very next time if you want to B uh bounce and and kind of hobnob and uh you know sit down and have a cocktail or uh dance with Mary or something that's your chance you see Mary you and Mark are right up there next to Heather and me and you siarra and Brian and uh Sean rub elbows rub elbows with some celebrities Mark and Mary from JC gur are gonna be on the fence cruise and uh We've get we've been getting a bunch of calls uh right now people saying hey how you know how do I how do I reserve it how do I reserve it well you don't reserve it online uh you got to call the number that's on the screen uh as soon as the some of the messages clear there and ask for Megan 800 8193902 extension 831 65 and the reason I'm saying it is because sometimes people are listening to this on a um one of the streaming channels that you stream this out to so again it's 800

Uh diagnose something and she's like so nobody really cares whether or not you're going I just need to know whether you're going like well great my I like boost my ego I like I'm ready to go then we'll see I guess we'll see so it's uh it's still up in the air right uh I'm going Robert ever says he's going I'm I don't know hey you can do a two smooth live operator uh from the cruise we could there's gonna be Wi-Fi on there yeah but uh there's GNA be Wi-Fi but all I care about no you do have Wii no there's Bluetooth no we got that class coming up the 12th I gotta be ready for that oh that's why I was G yeah that's what I was telling her I'm like you might want to double check because you might have some stuff to prep for because the very next chance hold on though hold on though look how sweet Mary is she said she cares and she wants Michael to go oh go and J the whole team votes yes for Brooks I don't know she sounds like she's been drinking or something yeah Mark Mark Checker I think she's having a stroke check it out something's up with Mary well she's gonna see me for a whole week that the week after that so she might not have the same opinion and then by the way um there is over last time I checked over 40 people interest in the vinyl fence networking event that's going to happen on the eth it looks like it's GNA happen now in Miami over 40 people have already expressed interest and I said if we get you know enough people we'll make that happen so everybody let us know again chime there whatever we can do to get enough people we get enough traction on it we're going to make a networking event uh for everybody to talk about vinyl fencing some vinyl fence manufacturers Distributors from the area in Miami and Florida around there so if you're in the vinyl business in Miami yep and we'll have a location we'll have a location uh Craig s you Banks says you should go as well oh cool yeah oh yeah we know the question is are you going you can't vote him onto the island if you're not on the island yourself good point yeah exactly the case so then when we get back from the fence cruise and the networking event from uh on the 8th in in February obviously coming up what is the very next thing where we can see Mark and Mary it looks like we can oh I that was all you yeah that is going to be you not just see you so just see me but learn from me and learn what not to do yeah so so I'll tell you all the stuff not to do and Co coyote will tell you how to do it right right like don't listen to Brooks this is actually how you're supposed to do it now but uh we're going to be at uh JC G's facility in La Habra California on the 12th through the 14th and I this will be actually this is gonna be the first time that the fence University if you will has had a guest installer yep as an instructor um coyote as the recognized Authority in Southern California for Access Control and automatic Gates great guy and if anybody has seen any of his videos quality of work they know that it's uh that's exactly what it is he's a great guy um but he's going to be a guest instructor and this is one of those things that we focused on which is the people actually doing the work y teaching the people actually doing the work so excited for that but we will also have Brian Dixon uh from BD Loops this uh Brian is gonna have to correct me if I'm wrong but this is gonna be one of the few times a year I would imagine maybe maybe the only time the year where he's actually gonna cut we're cut cutting two Loops at the facility we're going to cut at a minimum of two Loops at the facility and uh uh you're going to get your hands dirty actually all of this stuff you're gonna get your hands dirty because coyote and I are gonna be telling you what to do you're gonna have to the students are gonna have to do it so we're pretty excited we've sold a couple of tickets and we got uh about 14 seats left and um this is pretty unique I mean this is pretty unique you don't see a lot of this uh happening I mean you see training events where you go out and somebody goes out and helps uh you know somebody build a fence or somebody do something like that or even install an operator um on one of their projects but this is actually a project that you've set up um using obviously someone that's licensed out in California to make it happen that's correct and um the you know to do the training stuff as well that's familiar with the area and you know what you have to do to make sure it's it meets in the codes and things like that in the area

So um this is pretty unique that you're GNA have them actually out there doing the project and you guys are almost going to be supervising in a way uh you're going to be teaching them because I we we talked about that you got to teach people to be a good help um before they can actually become you know a good installer otherwise how are you going to train helpers in the long run too so um and you're right Brian I don't think Brian goes out and actually does a lot of these on the projects so this is uh it's pretty unique to get him out there so I'm assuming that he's gonna be putting in a BD Loop uh yeah I uh we may just hand wrap a loop and then take it out and then put the BD Loop in on one of them just so they can see how much longer it takes um so we're excited about that but we're also going to um use all of his tools the corner tool the actual roller tool that presses the loop uh in there the loop wire in there the preformed Loop cutter the P cutter yep y that's what I call it I don't know what he calls it but it's a piz cutter um and then we're going toh use his sealant that's appropriate for that installation so we're excited about it but this this this class won't happen again for us in a long time I mean we don't have any plans to do anyone this this year uh so it's going to be a live fire exercise which is the best for learning what you're supposed to do so they can register for this class by going to the fence University and you just got to scroll down just a little bit and you'll see the flyer that you see on the screen and right below that is the registration um but uh just remember this is in California this isn't not in our Las Vegas location this is in California okay we've got a very big outcry for hey we need something here too so we're excited to be there so hopefully this uh obviously one thing about f way is uh we live and learn and uh we throw a lot of stuff at the wall and and hope it sticks and what doesn't uh we you know try to monify and stuff so we learned a lot through the last year about um what was working what wasn't working when it came to uh creating something different for um people from all different levels you know in fence companies and gate companies that people that want to get into the industry so um we did that job fair not too long ago trying to get people into the industry that are completely out of it and that thing took off like crazy which we loved so um that being said there's uh that's that's event going to be going on in February uh mid-February 14th to the 15th you said 12th through the 14th 12 to 14 12 13 for so Wednesday Thursday Friday and then Susan we got another event going and you're gonna be there I'm going down oh it's Louis from automatic too we didn't mention oh yeah LOM for getting all the cool people what is that old yeah he's he's gonna be there uh we're gonna provide lunch for you every day and then uh old school over here um is going to be there and uh not only is he gonna talk about some of well I don't know my back is just some of the Practical if he's if he's not hung over from the cruise um but uh but you'll be there and uh oversee some of the stuff that uh you actually um think some of the offensers and stuff uh might like and some tips and techniques that you've got from 50 years of experience yeah and and we're really trying to figure out how um with your guys' guidance and all the information we get back and forth on these events from getting more and more input and so we we definitely encourage the uh the input and the comments um we want to figure out how we can connect the industry and you know gate installers and automated gate people and fence people and and find a way to bridge that so people are more comfortable getting you know installing Gates and kind of once you do one or two you're you're off man you're hooked you'll be hooked on it so Sean King what's up Sean I see why he didn't answer our message tonight why he's not here he would be on here Fort Worth Stockyard I know we should uh he knows how to log in you should probably get him to come on then looks like he's he's got you know he's always on the road he's probably driving halfway through somewhere he says probably on the road what's up man tell Heather tell Heather I said hi hopefully she's with you but uh so we got that going on and then you've got another event coming up uh in Las Vegas after that um and a lot of the stuff is gonna be happening um this won't be this won't be as uh in the field won't be doing one like uh you know out there but uh level one and we're gonna be introducing a lot more

Stuff this year uh level one quick start class uh this will be going on quarterly uh Susan will probably be releasing the dates again you can go online register for this one as well at uh fence university.com so and it's going to be probably getting a little bit more Hands-On even than we were in the you know in in the past we're going to go over components uh kind of breaking down but going back to yours automatic is going to be the operator going in right it will be yeah and it will be the only gate operator that will uh will be going over at that time okay automatic is it SL 100 no it's sl90 the new the new sl90 with the new DC Pro board that has the 7-Day timer partial open all that good stuff already 50 50 50 transactions logging all that good stuff yeah so um yeah so that's good so we love automatic too um of course we love all the manufacturers but we uh automatic uh send us some operators for training and stuff so we utilize the ones that people send us for training so if you're a manufacturer contact Susan tell them you want to get involved in the fence University we uh we love the support from the manufacturers so um level one um we'll be going over quick components and same thing you'll be going over there as well um and then uh be go the chains and most of these operators now come with photo eyes have you seen any don't come with any kind of safety devices now uh well I think quite a few of the top manufacturers do but they don't necessarily come with them complete uh so some of them may have an edge that don't come with uh the wireless Edge kit uh but for the most part yeah all of them are having I like these two photo eyes I mean I really really like them they're they this is now they're on the photoi number two uh so yeah most manufacturers will have uh two photo eyes or an edge in a photo eye yep they come with like 20 feet of chain things like this so um that but then you'll be going over how to how to probably add extra chain and stuff everywhere will be that's one thing I like about lift Masters Lift Master sends more chain than what you need and they send three Master links which is kind of cool I know it's more expensive to do that but they send more chain than most manufacturers and they send you three Master links so and it's still blackchain which is my favorite lift Master's been doing it a while so they got some of that figured out that's cool yeah yeah I agree you can they sent 25 a chain right it might even be 30 it's rare that I actually have to add anything on yeah and there's never enough Master links you're always looking for master links isn't it I don't know what it is you have those readers on you at all times you're looking for those little small parts but yeah so you going we're going over components this is a new uh revised thing that I haven't seen so I'm pretty excited yeah so um this gonna be and this is just kind of a kind of basically some of the stuff we're going to be going over these classes um anything we do with fwa and the fence University we're teaching about gate operators we want to teach you about gate operators and actually uh you know what it takes to put one in so we're going to be going over saw cutting and you know sometimes people are going to sub it out it doesn't mean you know I'm I'm firm believer don't hire anybody to do anything you don't know how to do yourself so it doesn't mean you still should know how to do it I like that a good very good philosophy and so even if you're gonna sub everything out I think you should still do a few loops and learn how to do it just so you understand what someone else is doing so someone's not blowing smoke over your eyes so um we're going to go over um obviously wiring in Loops did you just do two a combination smoke over your eyes like pull the wool over your eyes and blow smoke up your butt I like that I just made it comboed it up made it a little bit more politically correct I didn't mention the butt but thanks for yeah yeah thanks for making it so we can't uh we can't go PG on that yeah yeah but anyway so be going over Loops layout design things like that um concrete and then this is this is where I think that it get missed a lot it gets missed a lot on training it's um it's a lot of uh you can't teach us in books it's a lot of people saying do it this way do it that way there Sean what's up man what's happening we're going over some of the training we're gonna be coming up on your event too here soon what's up Heather what are you guys doing you guys

Are down in Texas yes yeah we thought we'd bring the winter storm morning down here and then take it back home with us on Saturday it's great as soon as you hear winter storm you just hit the road and it followed us down here we got inches of snow tomorrow in Fort oh that's awesome and ice ice oh that's awesome glad I'm not there man I love snow you can't get enough snow to make me happy so we're just kind of going over uh the quick start classes and level one that we're uh we're releasing out there so I know you're probably you're aware of some of this but we're just kind of introducing it to people so this will be the one coming up in um coming up in March beginning of March March 3D but uh we're GNA be also uh getting into some of the radio controls and uh keypads card readers the basic stuff this is again level one is not is not the one where you're going to come and learn about long range card readers and and you know proximity stuff and and getting into biometric scanners and and as much diagnosis you know diagnosing things and issues and problems it's going to be when you leave you're going to know how to hook up a radio control what level is that like level 15 by the time you get to file scann I call that level Brooks I mean but um yeah so and that's when you get into level two obviously getting into the access controls and I think she just bounced ahead to that so that's where it is level two is going to get into more of the access ACC controls where you see the computer programming and uh and also more and you see the meters in the back there things like that the meters will get a little bit more um Advanced where you're G to learn um a lot more about ohms and what do you teach on the meters that you know different than what what I would teach you know on I know how to turn it on I teach by the way I teach continuity and ACDC and and it better be a meter that switches automatically from ACDC so that's what I teach so that is a key feature most manufacturers call it autov volt which means that it you lose a little bit of resolution but meaning how many digits pass the decimal point but you automatically will switch to AC to to DC and you have to have a meter that has that but we uh talk about low impedance which uh you can get tricked all the time especially if you do new construction where you have an energized line next to a deenergized line um and anytime a circuit's energized it creates magnetic field and it can trick your meter so we talk about that we talk about a little bit more advanced stuff like time domain reflectometers and this is something that all of us need includ anybody that's digging somebody needs this device so anytime that you hit a wire or somebody hits a wire there was something on the one of the gate forums earlier today like hey I keep having a a breaker trip at my customer's house and I've had electrician look at it and they say all their power is fine but this device for less than a couple hundred bucks will tell you how far that brake is so all you have to do is pull out your wheel just like you're measuring a chain link and it's say it says 200 feet you go to 200 feet and then you see a big hole in the ground where you telling me that a multimeter can do that Sean Sean what do you mean we were just talking about how the low impedance affects the uh the magnetic field remember the other day you know I mean huh Michael you lost like we were rewiring that flex capacitor over your uh over in your when he said f capacitor that was it was I that boring just in freaking 60 seconds that freaking geeked out on this stuff do don't yeah that's that's great we need people like you because I yeah the the important part is it's not that complicated it's just two connectors you put on the wire and you make sure that it's not hot using it I bought detectors locate line locators oh man that's I cannot yeah and there yeah yeah yeah I mean yeah and he's he's got all this equipment here and it is a it is a level two I mean it's it's it's incredible but I think you definitely I think once you start doing access controls and gate operators and hopefully we get fence people doing this because I keep I keep seeing people are doing snow plowing they're doing all kinds of other stuff they're they're doing anything they have to do to survive in between doing fencing right and there's nothing wrong with that but imagine if you had a bunch of apartment complexes and a bunch of um communities that had you know automatic Gates and things like that you're doing service calls when a gate goes down

Winter time summertime it don't matter they need it fixed and you know it's probably one of the best ways that fence companies can have a reoccurring monthly Revenue I mean what what reoccurring monthly Revenue other than like stain can you guys do right even that's yeah that's hard to do monthly and gate operators you could sign you could sign people up for scheduled service all day long and just go out there every three months you get four or five of those in uh a month you now have a predictable uh week as far as your payroll goes yeah yeah so hopefully we can uh you know get more people interested in all this right and uh you know and and do it and the classes were um people really excited on it and we get a lot of people reaching out wondering when the next one so we are doing that quarterly now plus we're going to be sneaking in some other events um that are going to be happening and we got to and obviously we've been talking Sean and I how we're gonna get some of that around the country a little bit more um and piggybacking off other events and things that are happening we haven't released the Academy schedule yet but it's it's deep like it's uh crazy how many events are on the Academy schedule just just waiting for release it but there's a time I think I counted 43 events on there it's yep and Al's asking we do we're definitely bringing it to the east coast um I think you're going to see the exact same uh class and courseware that we're doing out here is going to be happening in the east coast um we need almost a fixed location in a way to do what to do it in the way that we're doing so um that's the details we're kind of working out on the East Coast yeah so great question on that so what do we have going on after the level one training and that's in March break dance training that's Las then we got CM oh oh March we got something else cool going on out there so um it's it's a no Miss right here what is this Sean oh yeah okay that's a big event The anemy Retreat [ __ ] heck yeah sorry my my uh John's like I don't know what else is happening in March I don't know I mean there's a lot in March okay Soh we're gonna be back in Fort Worth in March uh and then drive from Fort Worth straight up and maybe up maybe Dallas I don't know straight on up to the retreat uh yeah that's your fifth year am I am I reading this correctly fifth year and I think we're down to like six rooms left right now now it's insane in the past um and we're adding content like we we had a meeting this week about the schedule and we squeezed in more activities my team's like no there's no more time now there's always more time you don't need no rooms I've been to your house man you'll have people in tents you know five rooms left that don't mean nothing to you man be the floor we got everywhere got people on futons and I don't know what those Murphy Beds yeah there's a couple of those in the house like yeah like a Murphy bed but uh we're excited it's it's definitely going to be a different level than it was last year last year was incredible man I tell you what but we got planned for this year makes that look like challeng play right so um it's gonna be intense and that is coming up it's gonna be for you know before then though um we got I mean we got fence crws before that you probably already talked about that right so yeah there's so much going on um this is it's going to be fun it's going to be a fun year and I just and then we've got right after that Susan uh but but first off how do we how do they how do they register for that I I always tell people go to um it's real easy we have a website called mrin Academy retreat.com like couldn't make mrf Academy retreat.com it's there like it has its own the event is so big it has its own website it's own page everything it's just I heard they gave it a zip code is that true it's like an entity all on its own has own ZIP code I off and we love seeing the people coming back and we got a lot of new faces coming so that's great as well excited people um and the anyone I'll tell you this there's a lot of Buzz right now people talking about the fence Matrix that we've been that isn't released it was released to Academy members tonight we had a two-hour call everyone's now at home right now crunching numbers if you come to the retreat that's a way to get the copy of the fence Matrix you either got be in the academy or come to the retreat and you get the fence Matrix so people are blowing me up wanting their hands on it there's your there's your easy button go to the r go to the retreat yeah Billy

Gro gonna be there I do a lot of business Consulting and um it it takes me I do it normally you know over a quick phone call so you take your what are you laughing already for I love it what was that I was trying to play it straight tell me tell me how the F works yeah let me hear it you take so here you do you take you take uh you know all your bills your expenses figure out what it cost for you to stay in business and you know that month and then you sell enough fence to cover that and then you start making money so I don't I don't that was it right then figure out what it is figure out what your and all that stuff is and then you make it then you sell enough fence to cover that and then you start making money that's that easy I think I just broke the I think I just I created a new Matrix is that what it is where's my Excel Susan's crying over there like that's the Brian maker this is what I deal with every day he's like we just have to work more and figure out our expenses and then cover them and then we make money and follow me on Tik Tok follow me on Tik Tok follow me on Tik Tok Brian frck for more brianp Brian frerick said influencer you can't go wrong you can't go wrong man can I'm just disclaimer oh yes you can with that plan love it I love it but yes that's uh that's happening in in uh March we also have uh the event that gonna be in Fort wor gonna be in Fort Worth in um is that February March April March oh my gosh I can have a hard time keeping track all these events let me get the dates for you here in a moment while she figures that out well y'all figure that out I'm GNA talk about CMM open house in April um it's the 11th and 12th um you're going to be able to walk through their entire facility and um which manufacturers are they working with is it Homeland Homeland yep yep we'll be there uh and then it yes that one there be up north and there's a ball game we're going to yep afterwards yeah they got an entire uh suite for everybody um I know we'll be there as well um if you just scan that uh QR code right there or even email office at cmn.com because I know Brian's paranoid about QR codes I don't trust I don't understand the deal with the Q QR codes I told you that I said you tell me but it hasn't sunk in yet like you they're doing it now I just saw something on the news they're putting these little stickers up over the parking meters and people over the other QR codes and people are scam and putting in their credit card info you you wouldn't go to a website that you don't that you know we we were taught a long time ago don't guy that would just ruin this for everybody don't click don't click on a link and don't go to on everything and Brian's like but you have no idea where that's going it's right yeah but you have no idea where it's going so you you wouldn't you wouldn't go to a website you don't know so anyway don't get me started on that it seems craziness to me so I knew that was going to go you watch give it five years there'll be no more QR codes so so in Fort Worth in March uh 6th and 7th we're gonna be aner B and Max Supply um here in Fort Worth doing a training two day no training and then we're driving straight to the retreat so literally uh Thursday Friday and then the retreat we gota be there first week so we're driving straight up there from here so y uh that's what we're down here we're gonna meet with Homeland again uh anchor B and Max Supply so great companies yes yes awesome awesome right and so they're going it's all kinds of stuff we're going to be doing uh vinyl wood Aluminum deck gate operator little like a two hour what not to do and we should try yeah we'll try to get down there for that one too I think we're short it's a little short it's not even it's not even a level one we're talking level 0.25 yeah well I'm gonna be there he's doing the gate operator portion let maybe we'll maybe we'll turn that if everybody shows enough interest we'll turn that into a bigger um you know kind of like a short version of the quick start or something we see we'll see what we can do on that so um but yeah we'll call it the quickly Quick Start yeah the super the super fast start yeah we'll be talking about how to read a multimeter yeah yeah my and the meter I use there's one button on button I believe going going back to this time domain reflectometer I was telling about clearly the thermodynamics behind

What I'm saying is not accurate that's way off way off I'm just not smart enough to even talk to you guys what I do in the background y'all when this starts happening I know so what do we got so next so so I know Susan so you had a question to ask someone else was asking so I don't someone's asking Brian so you don't want to be the president of fwa anymore is that right yeah I saw that I like Woke up had a Miss call from you and like 10,000 social media posts and you're like I tried to call you I think he just woke see what happens when you're I really thought it's gonna go away oh that's gonna blow over so so apparently not because I did get a lot of messages and then you um obviously so I said hey is Brian passing the hat you know what I mean over over on there and um you know it's been a good four years since we started um fwa and it's been a long it's been a long road so not necessarily um is it something I don't want to be the president anymore I just think it's time to start talking to the members and asking them if we want to start a process of you know of having an election not necessarily saying that we're going to do an election pretty soon um you know it's you got got to be committed to it you know and and doing this is it's a lot of work and it's more than just a what the way we have it set up right now it's not really a figurehead position um like you know like a lot of lot of times it is you know on associations you've got you've got board members and and you know you got a staff that's doing doing some of the work and then it's a figurehead position once you get into this but on this you know Sean and I were actually and then obviously Susan you you work for the association do all of it really she she's you know she's the Workhorse behind it all but our positions aren't just figurehead positions it's a lot of work what we're doing um as well because we're actually guiding it in you know in the direction we want it to go so that being said um we do want to set up we're going to be setting up more of the board members and getting that stuff you know dialed in this year so at the fence Show in Las Vegas uh so Billy Gro thanks man but um at the fence Show in Las Vegas we are going to if you show up you know to the show we're gonna be doing a vote to see about um getting enough members to say they'd like to see a a process established for doing a switch over and having a nomination if they vote that means they're putting their hat in the ring well they can also requiring that you be an fwa member like you have to have some skin in the game to have an opinion on on the topic it doesn't take much to sign up to become an fwa member join fw. comom can be done right now but we will have people on site to help you do that as well um but yeah we want to make sure that we are the association of its members and that we're here ing to what our members want and need and that you know we're bringing in different Insight from different directions yeah so we forgot Billy's training yeah so and I know there's gonna be a lot of support for me to continue on and probably some people that don't you know want to but at the same time for the most part you know except for Brooks everybody else wants me to stay president of fwa but no I was want I definitely want you to stay I don't have to deal with any that so but it's something that's going to be uh you know immediate and stuff like that so we are going to uh if if you're interested in having a voice on that we're going to be doing a um like a member meeting at the at the show and in Las Vegas uh October um Susan will kind of put out whether it's the first or the third it be one of those dates um but at the at the show you've got your two-day course going on as well over drive y over drive good conversation about that the other day on one of the Facebook groups OT people asking you know is it really worth it I just stood back and sat and like watch the comments and the plethora people like are you insane absolutely blah blah blah blah so it's amazing that we didn't even to say nothing and the drills of people were like no all the education's Fantastic like go just go get there put yourself there um don't try to calculate like down to the down to the penny is this worth everything I'm paying look it's it's worth what you put into it so go yes get rid of the distractions pay attention whether it's our class or any of the fwa classes or all of them you're going to take away um information it

Will be beneficial to you period I mean I don't know if anyone that's ever attended any class anywh like well that was a waste of my time right right you know they're taking away something if nothing else you're at least thinking through the process of how to make it better for you even if you're not using exactly whoever the speaker speaking what they're talking about you may not use exactly but it might trigger something like ah damn H okay and it works gets you focusing on your business so yep and networking you get networking out of it or something like that so we're going to be adding um a shorter version of the quick start as well to that going on in that Monday Tuesday and stuff as well and then they can actually add that when they getting their pass they can add your class um I say yours obviously it's all of the whole CL but yeah you can add that while you're registering for the show you can click on and add the overdrive class um it's at a discounted rate right now if you get it with your past to the show um so again more reasons to even more reasons to come to Las Vegas um in October uh get involved in the association and also um some education and things like that so we're super excited about that yeah um CM open event uh we'll see you at that and then um cool oh man I think we we went over a lot of stuff and you got anything new going on so we got a Billy's got a training uh the 15th of this month like next week oh he does yeah so he put I forgot about it so he's already got I don't know six or seven people signed up for it it's gonna be a three-day training um vinyl wood aluminum in Florida Pace Florida so bait uh Billy Grove is running that training uh he put the dates in there where was it at it's in the comment there Susan 15 to the 17th I'm first of all my name will not be on a ballot it will be n Susan's in charge anyways you know what I mean like basically president without having to do all the live videos she's running the whole show make no mistake Uncle John Uncle John is gonna be at the training if you don't know who that is Uncle John's coming to the Mr Fence Academy training look this guy up uh massive massive followers he's um uh learning H fence Mr fit cabby way and gonna share it with all of his uh all of his people and his following so I'm working on getting him out to Def fence show as well Uncle John in our Boo and Billy send us over the or you Sean somebody send us over the info um if we haven't posted on it and we'll get that um so shout outs for that since that's coming up as well um Elijah man we're looking forward to having you there we're gonna get the microphone ready for you if you haven't heard Elijah sing yet yes yes man I'm bad ass very good also enter the fence sign competition get your fence signs ready work on competition stacked so right now you better get with JC gur and say I want to make the best f sign and challenge them to outo what they've already done that's true that's true good point excellent point you've got time now to redesign your sign and get a better better one right this make JC gur so busy remaking signs that they just had spinning there like all this all this new work everybody needs brand new signs start from scratch JC gur just got really big need a much bigger location they got move La anyways it's catching on fire I see does it have to be a fence company can be a gay company it could be a gay company send it company as long as you're attending the show and you adhere to that rules yeah yeah for sure yeah well we got U World of Concrete we're going to I don't think you're gonna be out for that Sean uh we got the whole High Point uh companies coming in High Point companies coming in for that we're walking the World of Concrete and then um we're actually doing the I always go to the National home builder show at the end of February to so if you haven't seen that that is really cool that's and there on and the concrete ones those are massive shows like you couldn't see it all you couldn't I mean you couldn't even if you walked around the whole time if you T if you stopped I did the math if you stopped and talked um more than three minutes or something three or four minutes at each Booth that's what you'd have to you'd have to talk less than three minutes at each Booth or something um in order to see the whole thing so that means use the hovercraft like I used last time yeah one 10-minute conversation and you just missed you every every 10-minute conversation you

Miss three booths you won't see it's that crazy yeah so lots of exciting stuff lots of exciting stuff um anyway thank you guys for coming you got anything to add Brooks uh no uh one of things that we did uh did forget to mention was that this is the first year that's PCH University is able to do private classes as well too oh that's right so we've got two scheduled we've got uh a one-on-one class that somebody has for two days they come they basically kind of set up their own courseware um but there's a uh up to about three people you can have um for the classes before we start having to change some things around and um you get to basically s tell me what the courseware is that you want and we work around that and it's just you and uh and we have a couple of guests come in as well too so we're pretty excited about that so if your schedule does not fit in our schedule we will uh we will make these private classes work for you um here in Las Vegas and we have talked about going to your location as well too but the advantage of Las Vegas is we have everything already set up for you and you'll get to have more in-depth training yep way better if you can get if you can get over here and uh people are starting to use our classroom we set up too I think bins you know bins uh from that was at our show from Canada they're coming down on the 15th uh with um SAS you know Southwest automated security is going to be in there for a day using our classroom and doing some training uh for bins so that'll be kind of cool we'll bring you some videos on that stuff Josh Glover what's up man he's a little late Josh did you see his post Josh did you see his post where he's like oh if you send me a meme just know that I'm gonna reply and I'm like man I go every every meme I have on my phone came from Josh just s them out like this every one of them it's like yeah exactly he's like you I got a meme for you you want one I got one for you every one of them you get a me you get a me make I just want to know is it Glover or Glover Glover Glover okay unless you're from Nevada lover Glover you're from Nevada you can say it the the 51st state Nevada it's not Nevada it's Nevada yeah so anyway thank you guys for coming in uh great show great first of the year I know um I I haven't been this excited you got one more thing no no I was like my hands like over here so I haven't been this excited about the beginning of the year uh in a long time to be honest a long time and Susan and I everybody you're amped we're all amped um I think with 2025 2024 was a weird year with h all the different stuff going on but uh 2025 is gonna rock yeah so all right all right you guys have a good evening everybody go get some food we'll talk to you take your te see you